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C-Series announcement tomorrow?

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Will this be the replacement for the Diesel-9????

http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080712.wbombardier0712/GIStory/

Bombardier expected to name launch customer of new C-Series

ERIC REGULY

Saturday, July 12, 2008

LONDON — Bombardier Inc. is set to move into direct competition with industry heavyweights Boeing and Airbus with the expected announcement Sunday morning of the launch customer for the new C-Series jet, a $3-billion program that has been an on-again, off-again project for four years.
Bombardier officials would not confirm or deny on Saturday that the C-Series, with 110 to 130 seats, had found a buyer or buyers among airlines or aircraft-leasing companies. But it is rolling out its top aerospace officials Sunday morning at the Farnborough air show, just outside of London, to make a major announcement. Analysts and fund managers assume it will be related to the C-Series.
The announcement will be made by Bombardier chief executive officer Pierre Beaudoin; Guy Hachey, the president of the Montreal company's aerospace division; and Gary Scott, president of Bombardier commercial aircraft.
Notice of the press conference went out Saturday, suggesting that Bombardier had nailed down a launch customer in the last few days. All the aerospace companies are keen to make big announcements at the bi-annual Farnborough show, one of the industry's top gatherings of aircraft buyers and sellers.
If the project goes ahead, it will create about 2,500 new jobs. It is expected that the plane will be built in Mirabel, near Montreal, though Missouri has been pushing hard to get a piece of the manufacturing action. The Canadian and Quebec governments would no doubt withdraw some or all of their proposed financial assistance if the plane were to be built outside of Canada. About one-third of the $3-billion development bill will come from government sources.
Bombardier is keen to push ahead with the C-Series in spite of the gloom in the airline industry, triggered by soaring fuel prices and an economic slowdown in North America and in Europe. That's because airlines that want to stay in business will have to retire their gas-guzzling clunkers and replace them with the most fuel-efficient jets, said Clifford Ransom, president of Ransom Research of Baltimore.
“The old jets are going to get parked in the desert,” he said.
Bombardier has claimed that the C-Series will consume about 15 per cent less fuel, and will be about 20 per cent cheaper to operate than current jets of comparable size. Mr. Ransom said airlines that cannot afford to buy the C-Series outright will be tempted to rent them from airline-leasing companies.
While the C-Series would compete with the Boeing 737, the Airbus 319 and their variants, Bombardier is apparently emboldened by lack of plans by either manufacturer to replace the small jets with more efficient models in the near term. This would leave Brazil's Embraer as the C-Series toughest competitor at first, though analysts assume Boeing and Airbus will eventually compete directly with the C-Series.
Mr. Beaudoin last month said the C-Series project is “very advanced” but would not confirm the rumours that the plane would be officially launched at Farnborough.
Analysts Jacques Kavafian of Canada's Research Capital has said Bombardier should be able to sell 3,000 of the aircraft over 20 years. If the plane is launched on Sunday, the first versions would be delivered in 2013.
 
Aviation Week quoted Bombardier as saying 20% fuel savings in their March article.
 
Aviation Week quoted Bombardier as saying 20% fuel savings in their March article.
20% over what? A DC-9? Hell, the 717 does that, and then some...

20% fuel savings over a CRJ-900 for an aircraft that seats 20-40% more people than a 90-seater would be something to shout about...
 
:rolleyes: Over the newest current generation aircraft. I guess that means the E190, 737, A319. That's what the article above says.
 
20-25% is on a per seat basis. They apparently are looking at a 150 seat version. Should be good competition for the 737-700s mid next decade.
 
Just on the paystub, unfortunately.

Thats up to the pilots to ensure the pay is on par with the 737s. Just because it says Bombardier doesnt mean it shouldn't pay well. Especially with 150 seats. ;)
 
http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-I1zXlWpkEpuSUX9pghRfMdlBiw

Bombardier announces new CSeries regional jet to be built in Quebec

21 minutes ago
LONDON — Bombardier (TSX:BBD.B) announced the launch of a new CSeries regional jet on Sunday, saying the "greenest aircraft in its class" will be manufactured at the company's Mirabel plant north of Montreal.
The Montreal-based aerospace manufacturer announced its long-awaited launch in London, at the prestigious Farnborough Air Show in England.
"With the latest in system technologies and aerodynamics, the CSeries family of aircraft will revolutionize the economics and network strategies for airline operations in the 100-to 149-seat commercial market," said Pierre Beaudoin, Bombardier's president and chief executive officer.
The company said in a news release that German airline Lufthansa has signed a letter of interest for up to 60 aircraft, at a price of US$46.7 million each. It also said that discussions with a number of airlines worldwide "are progressing well.".....

...Other airlines that have been mentioned as potential customers down the road are Malaysian Airlines and U.S. airlines Northwest and Delta.
 
Fast forward to 2015...

Airbus announced new A330-RJ to be built in it's Toulouse plant

21 minutes ago
LONDON — European consortium Airbus announced the launch of a new A-330 regional jet on Sunday, saying the "greenest aircraft in its class" will be manufactured at the company's Toulouse plant near the Spanish border.
The European aerospace manufacturer announced its long-awaited launch in London, at the prestigious Farnborough Air Show in England.
"With the latest in system technologies and aerodynamics, the A-330RJ family of aircraft will revolutionize the economics and network strategies for airline operations in the 300 to 350 seat commercial market," said Gustav Humbart, Airbus's president and chief executive officer.
The company said in a news release that the US airline, Mesa, has signed a letter of interest for up to 60 aircraft, at a price of US$146.7 million each. It also said that discussions with a number of regional airlines worldwide "are progressing well.".....

...Other airlines that have been mentioned as potential customers down the road are PSA Airlines, Chautauqua Airlines, and Gulfstream International Airlines.
 
If DL/NWA are considering it, it just may be a replacement for the DC-9. It seems Delta is happy with the 737NGs they have, so no change there. What this says to me is DL/NW think that the C-series can do the light jet job better than Embraer, which may make Compass outdated (unless Compass gets them at a more management friendly payscale).

Or... hello Skywest, here is your new toy.
 
Compass isn't flying the E-190s with 100 seats. Compass was definitely created to replace some of the diesel 9 flying, but the C series (and the 190 I believe) are both larger than what Compass is allowed to fly. Hopefully the current fuel crises doesn't erode scope enough around the industry to take the C-series outside the mainlines, but things will be interesting as Chapter 11 looms if oil doesn't come down soon. Hopefully the pilots have truly had enough career erosion and will stand tall, even if it means one or more of the legacies must fall. If the C-series is allowed outside the mainlines, then how long would it be before the 73s and 320 series are all replaced and mainlines are only 75 and bigger and the regionals are the most the majority could hope for?
 
They don't need to call them "RJs" anymore.....The damage has already been done.....The mainline rates are now regional rates.....Mission accomplished......

Pay and workrules are like water....they seek the lowest level......
 

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