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Beech Sundowner...Infor please

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I am thinking about getting rid of the ol' Warrior for a Beech Sundowner that is for sale here at my FBO. I can't find much on line about them. I have been told of landing gear problems. What can you all tell me about them? Any info, good or bad would be great!!

Thanks!
 

bigD

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I only have a few hours in a Sundowner because the friggin owner took it off leaseback two weeks after I got checked out, but I LOVED it. It's got that Beech build to it that the Piper products tend to lack. Nice and roomy inside, and the controls are well harmonized. A little on the slow side because the thing is wide, but at this stage of the game who's looking to go fast? :D

There have been some landing accidents, but like anything else it's due to poor pilot technique rather than a design problem. The bottom line is to fly the thing over the numbers at the right airspeed - if you're fast, you'll float forever. And in this plane, the absolute worst thing you can do is try and force the thing onto the asphalt. You'll porpoise, and if you don't go around and try again, you'll end up contributing to the higher landing accident rate of the plane. You might be able to get away with this kind of airspeed sloppiness in a Warrior, but it'll bite you in the Beech. Keep this in mind, and it's no more dangerous than any other plane.
 

bigD

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Forgot one thing! I usually indicated about 105-110 knots at 6000 or so. So you're getting Warrior speed with a slightly higher fuel burn. But you gain a lot of elbow room instead!
 
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Thanks for the reply. I am not as worried about safty in this case as I am about my insurance deductable. Like I said, I have heard of landing gear collapsing on hard landings. Maybe that is due to what you mentioned with people forcing it down. Thanks again!
 

desert pilot

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beech

Check wiyh chas on this board,he just bought the muskateer super(i think) it has the 200 hp engine,the main problem on these planes is a weak engine,1 door on some,bad pilots that cannot land ok.The super might be the right 1,recently there was 1 with a garmin 430 4 sale...
 
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Chas

Great planes

I did buy a musketeer super 3 with c/s prop and 200 hp FI engine if you can land a warrior or arrow a beech is a breeze just keep an eye on the airspeed on final and keep the nose wheel from touching first I love those planes !!! regards Chas


PS as far as landing gear they use rubber donuts as struts and over time they compress and lose there spring action .To refit your bird its about $2500 usually they last 20 -25 years there is a website for more info on musketeers http://www.myplaneonline.com/bmo/index.cfm?content=enhancements.cfm
 

speedracer2

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sundowner

I have worked on and flown beech sundowners and have found them to be decent enough airplanes. The bad side of this aircraft is the design of the landing gear, mains fold out and up not in and up like most airplanes...the nose gear has a convoluted steering and centering mechanism and if not rigged properly can cause landing gear accidents, if you are interested in knowing more about the sundowner search the service difficulty reports on the faa database here http://www.landings.com/_landings/pages/reports.html
 
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