Auto Brakes

[L-1011-500]

Hey for any of you CL-65 drivers I have a question. Does this thing have auto brakes?

 

[atrdriver]

No it doesn't.

 

[L-1011-500]

Thanks we were just sitting around in the hotel and none of us had flown one. Kind of suprised to hear there weren't any.

 

[atrdriver]

It has pretty good anti-skid, but no auto brakes.

 

[flyboyike]

Nor does it have auto-throttle or tail anti-ice, the latter was a real surprise to me.

 

[embpic1]

Nor does it have auto-throttle or tail anti-ice, the latter was a real surprise to me.

747 and 727 dont have de-ice on the tails either.

 

[91100 100 set]

You just have to go at the speed of heat to keep it melted off the tail.

 

[GOTAFLY]

757 doesn't have de-ice on the tail either

 

[JetPilot_Mike]

Why were you sitting around the hotel talking about CRJ's and autobrakes? Must have been a boring night.

 

[FinalOverERI]

Nor does the 737...

 

[chperplt]

Why were you sitting around the hotel talking about CRJ's and autobrakes? Must have been a boring night.

Hmmmm... Talk about woman or autobrakes.... :laugh:

 

[atrdriver]

Nor does it have auto-throttle or tail anti-ice, the latter was a real surprise to me.

I understand that auto throttles was an option though.

 

[dojetdriver]

I understand that auto throttles was an option though.

I've heard this as well, but it adds something like 2 million dollars to the price tag per copy.

 

[Willy21]

My one desire with the airplane is to have VNAV.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Is that so you really won't have to do anything but read your magazine?

 

[ground stop]

My one desire with the airplane is to have VNAV.

what, hitting the vs button and spinning the little wheel is too much?

 

[DrewBlows]

what, hitting the vs button and spinning the little wheel is too much?

Yes.
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[dojetdriver]

Yes.
.

Agreed,

It you work for an operator that is RNAV approach approved, every non-precision approach is just like an ILS.

So after a 12 hour plus duty day shooting the DME Arc at night into (insert any Mexican airport here) isn't such a pain in the a$$.

 

[ground stop]

why not have the altimeter automatically go to 29.92 when reaching fl180 as well? one less button to push.

 

[flyboyike]

747 and 727 dont have de-ice on the tails either.

So then what are those chromy anti-ice looking things for on the leading edges of the tailfin and the elevators? Come to think of it, the CRJ has those too. Are they some sort of inspection panels?

 

[CA1900]

why not have the altimeter automatically go to 29.92 when reaching fl180 as well? one less button to push.

Well, for starters, because not every country has its transition altitude in the same place as the US.

 

[Willy21]

Is that so you really won't have to do anything but read your magazine?

That is one way of looking at it, but it would also be a way to keep the people I fly with from using speed mode to the top of climb. One minute it is 2000fpm the next it is 200fpm. That makes it hard to do my sudoku puzzle.

 

[embpic1]

So then what are those chromy anti-ice looking things for on the leading edges of the tailfin and the elevators? Come to think of it, the CRJ has those too. Are they some sort of inspection panels?

I believe they leave the leading edges unpainted is because the rain and ice would strip the paint away.

On a side note, the 747 does have wing de-ice. However I have talked to many of our captains that say the have never needed to use it. I myself have never even touched the switch to turn it on. The only thing that we really turn on in icing conditions is the nacelle anti-ice.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

No it doesn't.

Yes it does, don't touch the brakes and let er run off the end, slows to a stop like a charm, our guys perfected the technique in Wisconson.
PBR
Little tough to make the quick turn though, best utilized on the last leg, for the overnight.

 

[DGdaPilot]

why not have the altimeter automatically go to 29.92 when reaching fl180 as well? one less button to push.

What good would that do me here in the Caribbean? Ever called Center and told them that you're at FL60?....yes folks, that's 6,000'.

 

[wmuflyguy]

So then what are those chromy anti-ice looking things for on the leading edges of the tailfin and the elevators? Come to think of it, the CRJ has those too. Are they some sort of inspection panels?

It is just like putting chrome rims on your '92 escort. It gives it that "bling, bling" appeal.

 

[flyboyike]

It is just like putting chrome rims on your '92 escort. It gives it that "bling, bling" appeal.

My Escort is a '96.

 

[Spinn555]

VNAV, Autothrust, Transition Altitude pushbuttons, no tail ice protections...you guys are talking AIRBUS!!!!

 

[atrdriver]

Yes it does, don't touch the brakes and let er run off the end, slows to a stop like a charm, our guys perfected the technique in Wisconson.
PBR
Little tough to make the quick turn though, best utilized on the last leg, for the overnight.

That's kind of like when the APD asked me on my type ride if I could run the packs off a bottle. I said sure...for about 4 seconds. He really didn't think too much of my answer...

 

[DrewBlows]

On a side note, the 747 does have wing de-ice. However I have talked to many of our captains that say the have never needed to use it. I myself have never even touched the switch to turn it on. The only thing that we really turn on in icing conditions is the nacelle anti-ice.

What are your company's criteria for using wing anti-ice? Is there an "ICE" annunciation?