Asa Ta No Way

[MoroniMetro]

....I'll keep it to myself sorry

 

[rightseatjocky]

It's ok, I am voting for it.

 

[JettBoii]

Me too.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Me too.

As in "you love the smell of napalm in the morning", or you're voting for it?

 

[USCtrojan]

....I'll keep it to myself sorry

Moroni Dirtbag, don't you have to change your underwear or something? Rabble rouser.

Trojan

 

[Smacktard]

....I'll keep it to myself sorry

I say 76% participation, passes with 82% of the vote. Just my guess...

 

[No Delay]

Smacktard...I think you are correct. Sad thing is that everyone I have talked to agree this TA is not good...but they simply don't want to fight anymore.

 

[scarlet]

But give details..don't say language or commuter clause? I have ask several people details and they ramble about a few things, that amount to NOTHING!

Voting yes here in less than 24 hours and know alot more yes than nos.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

I'll say it:

Paycuts for Check Airmen? My vote is NO!

Dick Gozinya

 

[scarlet]

Well the transfer of aircraft in the next two years you will take another pay cut and go back to the line=SMART !!

 

[No Delay]

Details:

I don't like all the open language in the scheduling section. We have 2 pages detailing the scheduling committee, line construction etc. Only to close it with "The company is under no obligation to listen to the scheduling committee!".

Our reserve system: We got the "Long Call" - unless the company wants to make that a short call. The bucket system is based on your flight time more than your senority.

I don't like the Bonus factoring in longevity beyond 5 years. Of course, taxes will eat up most of it anyway...so it doesn't really matter.

I am not sure about MMG.

I am not sure about rigs. The concept of rigs is good. But I have a feeling it will actually create more 4 day trips for us....just not sure.


I am on the fence - leaning more toward a no vote. But then I too have my moments of apathy and think just vote yes and get this over with.

 

[scarlet]

The rigs are great=ask anyone you know at Airtran.

They will have to build trips around 24 hours a week or hire about 300 more pilots. Which means you will have an average of 15-16 days off.

The bonus is like everything else in airline Seniority rules baby. And Profilt sharing. 401k every month. about

15-20 days more off a year for mini. day off.

The MMG how often do you fly under 70-75 hours (besides naps or reserve)

 

[scarlet]

anyone have the website for voting?

 

[goahead]

https://www.ballotpoint.com/alpa/

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Well the transfer of aircraft in the next two years you will take another pay cut and go back to the line=SMART !!

You obviously haven't read the TA. We are returning to the line with the new contract.

Dick Gozinya

 

[Richard Gozinya]

I am on the fence - leaning more toward a no vote. But then I too have my moments of apathy and think just vote yes and get this over with.

This is the reality of the vote. Apathy will prevail. 60-65% will vote yes just to have it over. Not to mention the dangling of a check right before Christmas.

I am voting no!

Dick Gozinya

 

[Beergut]

Don't you think it would be best to keep our personal feelings and discussions about the TA on the ALPA discussion board? Some matters are best kept in the family.

 

[scarlet]

I have thanks, better than any other Regional out there and yes you do work for a Regional !!

 

[scarlet]

Thanks go ahead !!

 

[wms]

But give details..don't say language or commuter clause? I have ask several people details and they ramble about a few things, that amount to NOTHING!

Voting yes here in less than 24 hours and know alot more yes than nos.

Here ya go:
Pay cuts for the 44 hardest working pilots in the company. So much for no pilot left behind.
A commuter clause that leaves out ATL based pilots commuting in from vacation.
Integration.
Floating days off on reserve.
Reserve lines should be full-month schedules, not six hard days off with the rest plugged in at skds discretion.
There should be 12 days off always.
Reserve call up is not seniority based for no-preference.
No PTO days.
Restrictions on trip drops.
Reserves can't pick up trips.
The signing bonus is half of what we lost over the last five years.

There's more, but that's what I come with in about 10 seconds.