ALPA Merger Policy?

[MCDU]

So, I know AWA AAA was a disaster. The only other merger with ALPA merger policy was Polar and Atlas.
How did that work out using ALPA merger policy? Did it work out in the end?

Marty

 

[737 Pylt]

So, I know AWA AAA was a disaster. The only other merger with ALPA merger policy was Polar and Atlas.
How did that work out using ALPA merger policy? Did it work out in the end?

Marty

Marty:
AWA/AAA was a disaster because of the east scumbags who are now trying to staple the west pilots to the bottom of their list, then talk of honor and integrity!
However, good goes around. When UAL merges with LCC I hope they use every east pilot as furlough fodder!

737

 

[MCDU]

Thanks for the well wishes. DOH with fences and protections is in no form a staple. Its how a real Union merges its work force. Good luck with NWA.

now back to my question. Anybody know how Polar and Atlas went? Did Alpa merger poicy work?

 

[D-Bo]

So, I know AWA AAA was a disaster. The only other merger with ALPA merger policy was Polar and Atlas.
How did that work out using ALPA merger policy? Did it work out in the end?

Marty

Why? Trying to see if you F'd up by going USAPA? You were a big proponent of USAPA right? If that's the case then why didn't you have this scenario figured out before? Why ask now? You aren't ALPA anymore so your question is irrelevant.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Eagle and Business Express. Date of Hire.

 

[linecheck]

Thanks for the well wishes. DOH with fences and protections is in no form a staple. Its how a real Union merges its work force. Good luck with NWA.

now back to my question. Anybody know how Polar and Atlas went? Did Alpa merger poicy work?

When it places 1500 out of 1750 AWA pilots below the most junior east pilot, that's called a staple.

Nice spin though.

 

[D-Bo]

DOH with fences and protections is in no form a staple. Its how a real Union merges its work force.

Really? That's how a "real union" merges it's workforce? So Airways is made up of many different airlines. PSA, Piedmont, etc.. I don't seem to recall USAir giving all of their partners DOH back then. So when did you a** holes become a "real union"? You Frs have a history of doing your best to F other folks over and then want to get righteous when you may get bent. That s**ts going to stop. You deserve whatever comes to you. Get out of here with that "real union" BS. Your bunch is the antithesis of that.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Merging airlines with our seniority system is a mess. It always has been and always will be. NWA/Delta will be no exception. Usair was the larger and more senior group in that merger. NWA is the smaller and more senior group in the the NWA/Delta merger. The junior airline always wants relative seniority and the senior group always wants DOH. The answer is somewhere in the middle. It cannot possibly work out smoothly.

 

[Carl S.]

East AAA is home of the most bitter sad sack pilot group in the US. No other airline has 20 year bottom F.O.s and 18 year street fodder. Any merger with this group is bound to enter into a disaster. The East wants to make up for their terrible career choices on the backs of any pilot group that they merge with. Watch out for the 1999 hires at AAA, they thought they won the lottery but are today the bottom of the list with three years active service in an 9 years career span! DOH would only help them make up for their bad choice on the hard work of others.

 

[Deadalus]

Beware United pilots, the East scumbags will want their junior FOs taking your senior captain spots. The only good news is that if there is a merger the sleaze bags will be outnumbered.

 

[regionaltard]

So, I know AWA AAA was a disaster. The only other merger with ALPA merger policy was Polar and Atlas.
How did that work out using ALPA merger policy? Did it work out in the end?

Marty

I thought that the Eastwipes already had all of the answers. What did I miss?

 

[BeCareful!]

When it places 1500 out of 1750 AWA pilots below the most junior east pilot, that's called a staple.

Nice spin though.

You wanna back that up with some facts or a teaspoon of reality, or do you just want to see who can "spin" faster? Under what gdam circumstances has this ever been proposed or would it ever happen? What a bunch of idiotic BS.

 

[PositiveRate]

Here are some teaspoons of reality...

Umm, usapa campaigned on DOH with conditions and restrictions - namely DOH with LIFETIME fences around PHX and LAS and DOH furlough protection for East pilots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Ox95ZttPo&feature=related

Fast forward to 3.00 and listen...

On a combined DOH list, 30 AWA pilots in the top 1000, 150 AWA pilots in the top 2000 and just under 300 AWA pilots in the top 3000. It's a staple. Restrictions don't change that and it's not spin from the West.

Merger policy: as provided for in USAPA By-Laws seniority integration will occur by date-of-hire with reasonable conditions and restrictions to preserve each pilot’s un-merged career expectations.

Do you need more proof or am I just spinning the facts again?

Unbelievable.....

 

[ultrarunner]

Merger policy: as provided for in USAPA By-Laws seniority integration will occur by date-of-hire with reasonable conditions and restrictions to preserve each pilot’s un-merged career expectations.

What is really incredible in all this is that ANY east pilot thinks they would have had ANY 'un-merged' career expectation other than unemployment.

I'm serious.

 

[BeCareful!]

Correct. I'd been reading that USAir was "done" for at least 18 years or more. Must have been true. It was even said on the Internet!