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SWA asks their pilots to chill and stop harassing AirTran folks
I just said that was me, nothing doing with what SWAPA did, said, or thought. But keep searching and spinning facts to fuel you agenda! Flightinfo use to be about sharing info and learning about industry, now its black helicopters, airline bashing and dirt digging. Peace out everyone, I'm out... -
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SWA asks their pilots to chill and stop harassing AirTran folks
I stand corrected on 717/737 AT payscale, bad assumption and no black helicopter theories here. My point is still valid though, many airlines have different pay rates and none have a DFR problem or consider that a B scale. Simply put, if GK keeps AT's current 717 rates via SL with SWAPA, how is... -
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SWA asks their pilots to chill and stop harassing AirTran folks
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SWA going against McCaskill Bond?
Swa will take 30-40 days to convert seats paint etc per plane. All they have to do is have guys in class ahead of plane going down for maintence and that's answers everyones question what would GK do about pilots if other groups agreed to something. Other groups can integrate without each... -
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Airtran MEC voted no
Fair and equitable is more than seniority. One can not just pick out the part of total package and say this is not fair. Look at it all. SWAPA wasn't happy at all the money going to AT but the total package had better seniority to not ask for pay. GK gave money to take a hit in seniority for AT... -
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SLI is out, it looks good for both sides
Exactly -seniority is forever, so when a swa pilot wants the only thing positive in this deal for them-gaining seniority-they are ridiculed. Give them that big raise like you while improving their qol and more to their 401k, reduce their health care cost etc etc etc instead and bet most may take... -
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SLI is out, it looks good for both sides
A new upgraded aai capt makes less than Swa fo with lower qol issues. So money or seat, it's always about money -
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SLI is out, it looks good for both sides
Explain how Swa gets the aai retirements. The Swa side has them that's why a zero growth model has the 2000 plus Swa fo's upgrading first a's they would have without aai. The Swa fo shouldn't be penalized because of an aquisition since pay raises like the aai fo's get weren't offered. The 300 w... -
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SWA yes vote:
I'd have to look at the fare differences, but at 40-80-120 sale thru nov, I am hard pressed to believe at those rates AAI competes closely with those fares, if that was the case Jordan would be raising fares as to not to compete against each other for pax when all profits now go to SWA corp. My... -
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SWA yes vote:
Thinking of all those that think GK isn't going to want to lose 100s of millions by not combining both companies, just a thought, he loses Swa that already for not charging bag fees! He's doing whats right for the external customer, does anyone have any evidence that GK won't do what's right to... -
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New AAI ALPA Strategy: Fire SWA Haters!
"The Group B3 EVP represents AirTran, Spirit, Comair, Compass, Capital, and North American." quote was stated earlier. Does this mean ALPA considers AT as a regional? Not flaming, just curious on why they aren't considered on their own considering the size compared to these others. -
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SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??
They lose money by delays in upgrade, week ends off etc. As you say, they didn't choose Swa but how did they earn it. So I guess a new hire hired after will go in front of everyone if they were a capt previously, they earned it right? -
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SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??
Please explain General how a pilot from one company "earned" his seat at another conpany by not passing an interview, not meeting qualifications, and not meeting a board. Your logic would induce that any pilot that gets hired at any company should be put in the left seat. We've all earned it. So... -
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Just the facts...
Its not his seat, its now a Southwest seat that will be flown by only SWAPA pilots after SLI. His Airtran seat will be no more. Let the NC's decide. -
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SWA Intel
A few years back before Aloha did it with their planes, Aloha used 2 SWA planes to get certified for ETOPS. When they landed in HNL their reservations started getting phone calls cause everyone thought SWA was going to Hawaii. So I guess you not have to have the program complete if you can use... -
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SWAPA has a transition agreement
My point exactly, your career expectation isn't that of a SW guy, you just said it. Also to compare apples to apples as you say, what does an 8 yr ca at AT make per month vs a 8 yr FO at SW not rate but actual pay in pocket. If it is anywhere in the same vicinity, then the argument for wages... -
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SWAPA has a transition agreement
gt, you also said you average 17 days off as a senior FO, a junior SW fo on reserve has 16 days off except Feb then its 15, I'm pretty sure. But he/she has the ability to go beyond the reserve guarantee on days off and do well beyond that from any base and only if he/she wants to. So looks to me... -
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SWAPA has a transition agreement
gt1900, what is the guarantee monthly hours at AT vs SWA. I think it 87 trips for pay at SWA while most say they do well over that. what's it at AT? If you are capped to say 70-75 hours isn't there a huge disparity paywise when you look beyond just the pay rate? -
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Airtran Pilots, Don't buy that new house yet..
Well said. This is just day 2 and it'll been interesting to watch it unfold. -