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    Boyd's take on the F9/WN/UA showdown

    I agree with almost everything that Boyd says in the article. I was talking to a SWA pilot friend of mine just today about this very same subject. He is a senior FO at SWA. He is just one example of SWA's high labor costs: he makes more than mid-level captains at many airlines. Basically it...
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    Offline commuting

    Phaedrus, I'm not exaggerating about the $50-60K. However, I didn't use any kind of formula to calculate that amount. It's just that in my mind, given all of the stress, frustration, jet lag, added time away from home, etc, that an off-line transcon commute entails, not doing the commute...
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    Offline commuting

    Definitely avoid commuting if you can help it. When you're evaluating which airline you're going to or where to live, you have to attempt to put a monetary cost on commuting. To me, I'd say not commuting is worth about $50-$60K per year. It is a HUGE factor. The farther you commute, esp if...
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    So Southwest Is Mortal After All

    SWA has been able to maintain its profitability over the last several years due in large part to an absolute cost advantage over other airlines. The cost advantage consisted mostly of 1) the fuel hedges, and 2) inefficiencies at other airlines. SWA was able to charge less than other carriers...
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    Nationwide Walkout!!!!

    No, I don't think I'm being liberal in my definition of a scab. The only caveat I will add is that the definition would only fit AFTER we transitioned to a national union. I am not blasting the present members of indepedent unions like those that exist at SWA and AirTran or the non-union...
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    Nationwide Walkout!!!!

    Mr Hat: Settle down. I said that most major 121 carriers generally require a college degree. For example: SWA-"Graduation from accredited, four-year college preferred" Continental-"A Bachelor's degree is highly desired" JetBlue-"College Degree preferred" FedEx-"College Degree from an...
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    Nationwide Walkout!!!!

    phil beddoe: THANK YOU! Your post is exactly the kind of creativity and imagination we need to have as pilots. I think there is a lot of merit to your ideas. Furlough Fodder also had some great ideas earlier in the thread. Seriously, this is the kind of creative thinking that we absolutely...
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    Nationwide Walkout!!!!

    A rise in pilot wages does not necessarily drive an increase in ticket prices. A forced rise in pilot wages may compel management to find new efficiencies in other areas. While I agree in general that a rise in the cost of pilots for the airlines would generate a need to raise ticket prices...
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    Nationwide Walkout!!!!

    People like Rez O Lewshin, whoever he or she is, are the embodiement of what is wrong with pilots in this country as a group: backward-thinking, lacking creativity, pompous, self-righteous, hopeless, fearful, the list goes on. Their stale ideas and our failure to take drastic action under their...
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    Time to say NO MORE

    Nindiri, okay, you're right. We're done for. Let's sit on our hands. Or, more accurately, let's pull down our pants and bend over some more. There's no hope. There's no way to defeat that possibility. I'm sorry to say this, but your reasoning is the kind of reasoning that has emasculated...
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    Time to say NO MORE

    I couldn't agree anymore. It is time to say NO MORE! The line of thought layed out here by MedFlyer is the kind of thinking that will lead to further erosion and destruction of our profession. It is the line of thought currently embraced by ALPA. It is wrong. We, as pilots, need to make...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    hbrow, While I disagree with quite a few of your viewpoints, I very much appreciate the fact that you addressed your points in a rational manner. Thanks. BTW, since you asked, I personally know eight black pilots and at least that many other minority pilots. In the last year, of the four...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    If OBAP does not help their membership (which by definition exists for black airline pilots) over others, then there should not be a problem in changing OBAP's name to something race-neutral and editing their stated goals in the same way. Again, I refer you to what OBAP itself has published on...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    This might be true in some cases. I don't know. However, when you join the debate especially to cast one side or the other in a disparaging light, please be specific and cite examples to support your claim. Why do you support, respect, and admire what OBAP does? Be detailed. Be logical...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    Hbrow, please don't try to distract the issue at hand: we are talking about racial discrimination, not whether or not it is okay to advocate for friends and acquaintances. That is an entirely separate issue. Relationships are the fabric of society and we will not and should not ever escape...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    Hbrow, Cyclone didn't have to attend a meeting to gather this impression. All that Cyclone had to do was click over to www.obap.org and do a little reading. OBAP's intent may very well be to make sure minority pilots are hired based on their merits. However, from reading their website and...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    Times change, situations change. There are many things that used to be okay. It used to be quite acceptable in the course of normal conversation throughout many parts of this country to use the n word. It isn't okay anymore and very rightfully so. Simply because OBAP was an acceptable label for...
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    Why we have OBAP........

    I understand perfectly well the aim and intention of OBAP. Blacks were discriminated against for a long time in this country. In some cases in the aviation world, they still are. However, regardless of whatever noble intentions it claims (and I do believe that they are genuinely good...
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    BOEING LONG HAUL (24 hr duty day)

    I once did a 21+ hr flight from Washington DC to Seoul with one air refueling and a 3-person crew. Wasn't the most fun I've ever had.
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    SWA proposal for operation at King County

    Chalk one up for Alaska. Southwest loses this part of the political battle for BFI. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002421712_southwest05m.html Lawmakers against Southwest's proposal By Alex Fryer Seattle Times staff reporter Most of Washington state's congressional...
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